Proposal for Constiution of IWM

We need constitution to know which are the rules and who is doing what

Fredrick I hope you will write it

Yes we need a constitution for our party so that our party members can work in its Guidelines.

quick question, what type of party are we going to be? We can be a decentralized party based on direct democracy or have a more central organization where people are voted into positions. Decisions could be based around Democratic Centralism? There are a lot of organizational ways we could go about this. Or am I supposed to write it and then we'll discuss it?

I am for decentralized direct democracy system...(altough this way is harder and needs much activity) what about you guys?

well the politburo or whatever we call it should be elected and only by active members. this body should take major decisions like candidates for congress and presidents. the party president should head the politburo.the PP should be elected directly and the official candidates should be decided beforehand again elected by active members. well this is how it works in RL with complications like working committees, etc but not for the eworld.we can avoid ptoers and multies only by maintaining a list of loyal/active members who will work for us. First of all now we need to do some propaganda. I know simonov and Wall_ster are active writers. we need an active support base. lets try and get more and more new players' support and maintain constant contact with them so that we know they'll join us

quick question, what type of party are we going to be? We can be a decentralized party based on direct democracy or have a more central organization where people are voted into positions. Decisions could be based around Democratic Centralism? There are a lot of organizational ways we could go about this. Or am I supposed to write it and then we'll discuss it?

Well, direct democracy need active man power like Simonov said. eIndia don’t have even active guys keep important government roles so there is difficult get active guys also in here. But I think direct democracy is the best thing because it keeps activity on forum and there is some doing those two-clickers. But now it may not be the best solution what I think.

I prefer that we first go that central organization system. When we get soma activity we could little mix organization system and direct democracy. And when we have many active members then we could move in direct democracy.

First of all now we need to do some propaganda. I know simonov and Wall_ster are active writers. we need an active support base. lets try and get more and more new players' support and maintain constant contact with them so that we know they'll join us

+1 nkaditya ir right. Also I want our party is more that party, it is like good team where is good atmosphere. We could have some games in here on forum and eRepulblik. It builds our support and keeps old members in party.

yes comrade but first we must form a team to write a constitution and an initial team to host Politburo(if thats what it is to be called) elections here on the forum

I would advocate for a representative democracy, let the party's leadership be voted directly by the party, policy decisions would be voted on by the leadership, or whatever we call it, and input would be gathered from the party members in the form of polls, so the leadership structure would be expected to go with popular opinion, but the vote would ultimately lay with them. Of course the way to counter that is if the party doesn't like what a someone does they don't vote for them next term. And there should be some kind of impeachment protocal to safe gaurd from the PTO scenario and abuse of power. I always push for that
Just my take on it.

yes we need an impeachment proposal that can be moved by all members rather than politburo members. but candidates must be decided beforehand for PP elections to avoid Pto threats.

right.......
canidates should announce their intent to run at least a week before elections, I always did it right after Country President Elections

Okay I just sketched out this Constitution:
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AfZ0KedfxuYdZGc0Z2JtNjZfOGNycjVyM2hu&hl=en

Indian Worker's Movement Constitution

Preamble

The Indian Worker's Movement(IWM) is a socialist party that accepts people from all nationalities and any gender. We are multicultural but we are united by our willingness to sacrifice, serve, and lead in the interests of the workers both domestically in India and internationally in other countries. We are an internationalist party, the emancipation of the worker is not something to be desired only in India but in every country. We recognize that the emancipation of the workers will be by the workers themselves which means the IWM is not looking to just win Congress elections, the workers movement must change the society itself, this makes the IWM a Revolutionary Party.

Amendments

I. Leadership and Governance.

1. The IWM shall be governed by the Party President and the Politburo.

2.a. The Party President shall be elected through a democratic vote via ERepublik and Party forums to ensure a hostile PTO is not attempted.

b. If their is a PTO of the IWM the Party President elections will be considered null and void, the president elected by the democratic vote through the IWM forums will be considered the true Party President and will be granted the same powers as they would if there was not a PTO.

3. The Politburo will shall consist of the Party President and the director of each Party office: Recruitment, Public relations, Office of elections, and International relations.

4. The directors of Party offices shall be picked by the Party President and confirmed by a majority vote of members.

II. Power granted to the Party President.

1. The Party President shall have executive powers, with the ability to make on the spot decisions.
a. Executive decisions will be defined as making decisions that would usually be up to the director of one of the Party's offices. The President will immediately contact the director with jurisdiction over that office and notify him/her of the decision that he/she made.
b. If the director with jurisdiction over said office does not agree with the decision made he/she can put the decision to vote in the Politburo and reverse the Presidents decision if they get 1/2 vote in the Politburo, or they can put the decision to vote in a poll-thread in the forum where every member can vote(henceforth known as a "party vote"). If the members of the party vote the decision to be reversed by a 2/3 vote it shall be.

2. The President shall be responsible for creating organizations and party offices.
a. All appointed Directors must be confirmed by a simple majority vote.
b. A Party office can be abolished by a simple majority vote in the Politburo or a 2/3 party vote.

3. The Party President shall have the power to nominate official party candidates for Congress based on recommendations or primaries within the party. The Party President shall endorse a President for India based upon a party primary.

III. Powers of Directors and the Politburo

1. Each Director shall have jurisdiction over their respective Party offices but specific plans and orders can be overridden by a simple majority vote in the Politburo or by direct order of the Party President.
a. A direct order by the Party President can be overridden by a simple majority vote in the Politburo.

2. No person shall be Director of more than one office.

3. Each office Director is considered a member of the Politburo.

4. Each Director shall provide the Politburo with briefings concerning their office upon request, completion, or progress of a undertaking of their office.

IV. Party Offices

1. The Office of Recruitment is in charge of recruiting Indian citizens to become party of the Indian Worker's Movement and to encourage new recruits to be active on the forums.

2. The Office of Public Relations is in charge of writing and editing official newspaper articles for the parties newspaper. This includes, but is not limited to, highlighting our achievements, showing the plight of the workers, party announcements, and assisting the offices of Recruitment with recruiting, and the Office of Elections with campaigning.

3. The Office of Elections is in charge of assisting candidates from the IWM to get Congress seats. This includes campaigning and organizing voters.

4. The Office of International Relations shall be in charge of representing the IWM in foreign governments, parties, or organizations, as well with bringing back topics to discuss from those bodies.

V. Impeachment.
1. Any Politburo member or Party President can be impeached with a party vote of 2/3.

VI. Ratification and Amendment.

1. The Indian Worker's Movement's Constitution must be ratified by a 2/3 party vote and so must an Amendment.
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Discuss what can be changed or if that's good.

If I may.....
I liked it, but maybe there should be something added as in what to do in the case of a tie in all elections. Perhaps the PP could be the tie breaker, so he/she would get a second vote in the case of a tie, or be the decider in a party staff vote in the case of a tie in the party vote. I just think something should be put down in the constitution to help avoid pointless bickering in the case of a tie.
Also, maybe there should be some kind of time limit for a vote to stand before votes are counted since usually not every single party member votes, I suggest a week perhaps? That can also allow adequate time for discussion and consideration.
Just a thought. What does everyone else think?
I encourage discussion and debate!!!

I like that idea, Vincent, if there is a tie, the PP will decide which way the vote goes.

Also the Departments don't have to be those ones, we can switch some around, have better names for them, cut some, add more, etc, that was to just give an idea of what it would be like.

we must also create a mwmber of the politburo who is a bridge btw new members and the leadership. Also the pp should have a fixed no of continuous terms. We should have some minister for military actions in the future for overseeing te militia and identifying regions where help might be needed .

nkaditya wrote:we must also create a mwmber of the politburo who is a bridge btw new members and the leadership. Also the pp should have a fixed no of continuous terms. We should have some minister for military actions in the future for overseeing te militia and identifying regions where help might be needed .

Yes I was thinking that would all be in time though. For example we had the Young Socialist Program in the Socialist Freedom Party but for right now I could see that as being in the Recruitment office since we don't even have a company running yet to gift new and young members. I don't think we should have term limits, term limits stifles democratic procedures, if we have a president who we do not like so he'll be voted out. But if we have a president who we love it would suck if he/she had only a limited time to lead instead of forever long he/she wants to run or until we want someone else to be in the PP position.

Yes I agree we should have a military department when we get a militia. We should be able to provide citizens with everything the State and companies can provide too making a parallel government.

right, but fixed terms give other players a chance. Im fine without them though

then I say we add a section outlining the rights and duties of the militia command and give the general or whatever we call the head of the militia the power to appoint lieutenants and or staff as needed
we should also state that this party will and has the right to form and maintain a militia

maybe there should have to be some kind of hearing when a move for impeachment is made, since that is the actual meaning of the word anyway.
But it could safeguard from rediculous accusations and people joining the party just to stir up trouble and cause disorder. So a case must be made and proven by the accuser before a vote is made, I'm just not sure how to choose a jury, maybe two from the politburo, two from the party, must be known members that have been around for a set amount of time to safe gaurd from manipulation, and an impartial fifth to be the moderater/tiebreaker that must be agreed on by all four members of the jury? That would make the impeachment a little harder to accomplish and I think that would protect it from misuse. Thoughts? Is it too much?

Well the problem is we don't have a militia yet, wouldn't it be fit to have something on our militia once we actually have one?

I think that is a good idea on the impeachment topic. Can you write that out in a formal way?

ok, I'll get on it

Sorry it's just that I'm blown out my mind right now, I'm surprised I can make coherent sentences, or that I can even spell coherent right Makes it hard to concentrate.

I'll post it by tonight or tommorow

here is the official write up for impeachment protocal to be inserted in the proposed constitution. Let me know what you think, one thing I want to get input on is the time periods I specified. I was trying to make it short enough to make sure that impeachment wouldn't take so long that someone that deserves to be impeached wouldn't be able to just finish their term, but also long enough to make sure a real case can be made and heard. The length can also protect innocent accused. But I'm open to suggestions, this is a party decision after all.



(2 and 3, ect.... meaning after Section 1 Article V concering impeachment)

2. The PP and/or a member or members of the Politburo may only be removed from office if they have deliberately ignored any content written in this constitution, have attempted to change the alignment, name, or purpose of the IWM without the consent of the party as a whole (PTOers), have colluded with institutions or parties (groups, individuals) that have the potential to be damaging to the party or the party's interests in India and the world, shown evidence of conspiracy against the IWM, or have stolen party assets. Simple unpopularity is not considered grounds for impeachment and a motion may not be made on these terms.

3. In the scenario of a successful motion for the impeachment of the PP and/or a member or members of the Politburo, meaning after a motion for impeachment has been initiated and 2/3 of the party have voted in favor, a hearing must take place in order to ensure that accusations are infact authentic, and not fabricated, before the accused are removed from office. The following sub-sections outline the protocal for said impeachment hearing.

a. Any accusations that meet the criteria previously specified and justify the removal of the PP and/or a member or members of the Politburo must be successfully proven by the accuser and only the accuser using empircal evidence and/or credible witness testimonial.

b. The case will be heard and decided by a jury of four party members. Two will be selected and voted on by the politburo and the PP, two will be selected and voted on by the party as a whole (excluding the politburo and the PP), and an impartial fifth, who will serve as a moderater/tiebreaker, must be selected and agreed on by all four members of the chosen jury.

c. An impeachment hearing must be adjourned in exactly one week, a jury will always have no more than one week to decide on a verdict no matter the length of the hearing. After a week has passed without adjourning the hearing is automatically adjourned, no more evidence will be heard, and the jury must begin to make a final decision.

d. In the case of indecision (if the moderator is unable to reach a decision in the case of a locked jury after the mandatory time period for deliberation has passed), a majority party vote will be the decider. The time limit for a majority party vote is three days. After three days votes will be tallied no matter the voter turnout. The results will be final.

5. During an impeachment hearing, the accused will still retain the responsibilities and power designated to their office.

6. If the accused are found guilty by the jury or majority vote, all powers granted to them will be immediately null and void. An emergency vote will then be initiated, following the protocal outlined in this constitution concerning the electing of party officials, to establish a replacement or replacements.

i think we should appoint a future militia commander right now and send him to a country where there is a militia to learn how it functions

Hello comrade!
I want to say my opinion about this topic..
First of all I belive that is important since now have a member of the politburbo dealing about Militia. I know thet ther's a red brigate, a brigate of all the red militia that is leaded by Feffo... I think we should elect a commander, so that he can start to create the militia and can start to organiza it... so I quote nkaditya :

nkaditya wrote:i think we should appoint a future militia commander right now and send him to a country where there is a militia to learn how it functions

Another thing... I agree with the creation on the pilitburgo but I think that this be an organ of the party that do what the party decide... I belive that all the decision should be taken with the debate on the forum and the PP and the politburgo should be the filmmakers of the party's decision... What that I want to say is that i belive that the decision should not be taken from the politburgo or from the PP but should be taken in the forum, were the opinion of each comrades has the same importance of the opinion of each other comrade.

For this reason i think that we should not put a limit at the number of time that a comrade could be part of politburgo.. think that if a comrade has enough time to realize the ideas of the party is a good think that he's a party of the politburgo... Our idea has to be that if a comrade want to be a part of the politburgo and is the first time that he'll be part of this he should be advantage, but I think that we shouldn't put limit if ther are not enough comrade that want be a part of the politburgo...

Sorry for the bad english, i hope to be clear..

Gracchius